Orthodoxy II
http://www.orthodoxpress.org/parish/river_of_fire.htm
By coincidence a correspondent of mine, whose name I withhold because it is well known, mentions that he is considering conversion to Orthodoxy.You might be interested to know that Franz Rosenzweig hails Goethe as the first modern Church father of Orthodoxy. There is a marvelous digression in Rosenzweig's "Star of Redemption" on the Eastern Church, or what he calls (after Schelling) the Johannine Church (where the Catholic is the Petrine and the Protestant the Pauline). He writes (Galli's translation, p. 302 passim):"Love was very feminine, faith very masculine; only hope is always childlike; only in it does the 'become like children' begin to be realized in Christianity...Goethe..hopes, as Augustine loves, as Luther believes. And so the whole world comes under the new sign. Hope becomes now the greatest. The old powers are reconciled in hope; faith and love adapt themselves. From the children's sense of hope now they get neew power, such that they become young again like the eagle. It is like a new world morning, like a great new beginning anew from the beginning, thus as if there had been nothing before. Faith that proves true in love, the love that carries faith within its bosom, they are both now carried on high on the wings of hope. For thousands and thousands of years, faith has been hoping to have been true in love, love to have carried true faith into the one and universal light of the world. Man says: I hope to believe."One must read the whole discussion in the "Star," and last week's "Sourdough" essay provides some helpful background on Goethe. I would be interested in your thoughts if you get around to reading Rosenzweig. - Spengler, Asia Times Online
My biggest objection to Orthodoxy is, after months of reflection and back and forth, that they reject Protestantism (F. Seraphim Rose called it a snake biting its own tale, Eternal Reformation of Itself), but can themselves offer no explanation why the universalism and lack of ikons in the Cappadocian Fathers were Reformed by Augustine, Tertullian, and Photius into a more or less recognizably "Orthodox Church". In otherwords, creatively adding ikons was (in one sense) fine, but one cannot arbitrarily then put an end to innovations in the name of anti-Western zeal for the purity of the Gospel. The Church has always innovated, always Reformed, always branched (flowered) forward into new varieties.
By coincidence a correspondent of mine, whose name I withhold because it is well known, mentions that he is considering conversion to Orthodoxy.You might be interested to know that Franz Rosenzweig hails Goethe as the first modern Church father of Orthodoxy. There is a marvelous digression in Rosenzweig's "Star of Redemption" on the Eastern Church, or what he calls (after Schelling) the Johannine Church (where the Catholic is the Petrine and the Protestant the Pauline). He writes (Galli's translation, p. 302 passim):"Love was very feminine, faith very masculine; only hope is always childlike; only in it does the 'become like children' begin to be realized in Christianity...Goethe..hopes, as Augustine loves, as Luther believes. And so the whole world comes under the new sign. Hope becomes now the greatest. The old powers are reconciled in hope; faith and love adapt themselves. From the children's sense of hope now they get neew power, such that they become young again like the eagle. It is like a new world morning, like a great new beginning anew from the beginning, thus as if there had been nothing before. Faith that proves true in love, the love that carries faith within its bosom, they are both now carried on high on the wings of hope. For thousands and thousands of years, faith has been hoping to have been true in love, love to have carried true faith into the one and universal light of the world. Man says: I hope to believe."One must read the whole discussion in the "Star," and last week's "Sourdough" essay provides some helpful background on Goethe. I would be interested in your thoughts if you get around to reading Rosenzweig. - Spengler, Asia Times Online
My biggest objection to Orthodoxy is, after months of reflection and back and forth, that they reject Protestantism (F. Seraphim Rose called it a snake biting its own tale, Eternal Reformation of Itself), but can themselves offer no explanation why the universalism and lack of ikons in the Cappadocian Fathers were Reformed by Augustine, Tertullian, and Photius into a more or less recognizably "Orthodox Church". In otherwords, creatively adding ikons was (in one sense) fine, but one cannot arbitrarily then put an end to innovations in the name of anti-Western zeal for the purity of the Gospel. The Church has always innovated, always Reformed, always branched (flowered) forward into new varieties.
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